Hyundai Genesis vs. Subaru Forester Lemon Odds and Nada Odds
Other sources of Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Forester reliability data provide only averages, which can conceal as much as they reveal. So we also report the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Subaru Foresters with no repairs at all in the past year and the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Subaru Foresters that are lemons (required three or more repair trips in the past year). These figures might surprise you.
These stats are promptly updated four times a year, to closely track Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Forester lemon odds as the cars age. Others can be over a year behind. Only TrueDelta tells you how reliable the Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Forester have been recently.
See what our members say about Hyundai Genesis lemon odds and brand reputation.
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Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds through March 31, 2013
General NotesNote the sample sizes in the right column. For a precise Nada Odds, it'd be best to have 50+ cars. For Lemon Odds, 100+. In most cases the sample sizes are between 25 and 35, and differences of less than six points are probably not meaningful. This is especially a factor with the "Lemon Odds," where nearly all scores are low.That said, the Lemon Odds figures are probably much lower than many people suspected, so we've posted them. Similarly, the Nada Odds are probably higher than many people suspected. Even with the least reliable cars in this results set your odds of no repairs would be better than one in three. Surprised? MethodologyThe samples include cars for which we have at least nine months of data in the past year. The "Nada-odds" are adjusted based on the average number of months of data per car. These stats are very close to what they'd be if we included only cars with a full year of data.
Only successfully completed repairs are currently included in the analysis. Recalls and problems fixed with just a reflash or warning light reset are not included.
| Year | Make/Model | Nada Odds per 100 Cars | Lemon Odds per 100 Cars |
| 30 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 17500 miles driven2012 | Hyundai Genesis | Join or sign in to view | |
| 29 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 30000 miles driven2011 | Hyundai Genesis | Join or sign in to view | |
| 26 vehicles, 11.9 months per vehicle, 29000 miles driven2011 | Subaru Forester | Join or sign in to view | |
| 25 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 39200 miles driven2010 | Hyundai Genesis | Join or sign in to view | |
| 46 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 37900 miles driven2010 | Subaru Forester | ||
| 41 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 48600 miles driven2009 | Hyundai Genesis | ||
| 60 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 51600 miles driven2009 | Subaru Forester | ||
| 27 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 102000 miles driven2004 | Subaru Forester | Join or sign in to view | |
What Our Members Are Saying about Brand Reputation and the Hyundai Genesis
| Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis: Pros | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2012 | 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6 8-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing |
| 2010 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. |
| Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis: Cons | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2010 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
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What Our Members Are Saying about Brand Reputation and the Subaru Forester
None of our members have yet commented on the brand reputation of the Subaru Forester.
